Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 17

02/22/2006 04:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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= SB 260 EXTEND TASK FORCE ON WORKERS' COMP
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 394 INSURANCE POLICIES IN FOREIGN LANGUAGES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 394(L&C) Out of Committee
*+ HB 447 BROADCASTING PROMOTING CHARITABLE GAMING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 394-INSURANCE POLICIES IN FOREIGN LANGUAGES                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:20:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO.  394, "An Act  relating to  allowing insurance                                                               
policies to be filed, approved,  and delivered in languages other                                                               
than  English if  an official  English language  version is  also                                                               
provided."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON moved  to adopt  CSHB  394, Version  24-LS1506\F,                                                               
Bailey,  2/22/06,  as  the  working document.    There  being  no                                                               
objection, Version F was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  PAWLOWSKI,  Staff  to Representative  Kevin  Meyer,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  explained that  over 80,000 Alaskans  speak a                                                               
language  other than  English  at  home.   However,  there is  no                                                               
provision in  state law that  facilitates an  [insurance] company                                                               
to  issue  an  insurance  policy or  associated  materials  in  a                                                               
language  other  than  English.   He  explained  that  Version  F                                                               
clarifies that  when an  insurance policy  is filed  or materials                                                               
are issued,  the English version  is the official version.   This                                                               
information  must be  disclosed  in any  materials  given to  the                                                               
public.  He went  on to say that HB 394 is  a "cleanup" bill that                                                               
facilitates better service to Alaskans who buy insurance.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  asked for the differences  between the                                                               
original version and Version F.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI explained  the changes in Version F  are related in                                                               
the document  titled "Committee  Substitute Comparison  Sheet for                                                             
House Bill 394."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG asked  if  the  violations remain  the                                                               
same regardless of language.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PAWLOWSKI answered  that this  is correct,  adding that  the                                                               
sponsor  did not  want  to link  [language]  specifically to  the                                                               
general violations  because the  sponsor did  not want  to create                                                               
"lack  of  clarity"  between  this   legislation  and  the  false                                                               
advertising provisions in Title 21.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PAWLOWSKI,  in  response to  questions  from  Representative                                                               
Rokeberg, explained that an insurance  company would be unwilling                                                               
to issue  a claim in a  foreign language if the  official version                                                               
was  not specified.   He  added  that in  case of  a dispute,  an                                                               
official  version is  needed.   He related  that the  Division of                                                               
Insurance is in support of the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:25:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  noted that CSHB  394 does not  mandate the                                                               
insurance companies  to write a  policy in a language  other than                                                               
English, but  rather allows the  companies to market to  any non-                                                               
English speaking group.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI agreed  that this is correct, adding  that the lack                                                               
of a provision in current law creates an obstacle to this.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked if there  are currently any insurance                                                               
policies in languages other than English.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI deferred to the Division of Insurance.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:26:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFFERY   TROUTT,  Deputy   Director,   Division  of   Insurance,                                                               
Department  of   Commerce,  Community,  &   Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED), stated that  although the division did  not initiate the                                                               
legislation, it  does support the  bill.   If English is  not the                                                               
native language,  the individual buying the  insurance policy may                                                               
not understand it, and this  [legislation] would support consumer                                                               
education  and protection.    He added  that  having the  English                                                               
version  as  the "anchor"  is  a  good  idea,  as it  is  "almost                                                               
impossible"  to   accurately  translate  from  one   language  to                                                               
another.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON repeated an earlier  question regarding the amount                                                               
of paperwork that would be required.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TROUTT opined  that  this would  not  create a  "nightmare",                                                               
explaining that currently Spanish  is the only non-English policy                                                               
[in print].  He added that this  is more likely to be an issue in                                                               
the future.  He noted that the legislation has no fiscal impact.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:28:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHELDON  WINTERS, Lobbyist,  State Farm  Insurance (State  Farm),                                                               
stated that  there is  an emerging group  of consumers  who speak                                                               
foreign languages, and  the insurance companies want  to have the                                                               
ability to  provide them with information  on insurance products.                                                               
He  pointed  out  two  areas  of HB  394  that  explain  why  the                                                               
insurance companies would like to  make these changes.  Referring                                                               
to  Section 1(a),  he  explained that  this  refers to  insurance                                                               
policy  forms, specifying  that if  an  insurer wants  to give  a                                                               
foreign  language translation,  the English  version will  be the                                                               
main  version.   Mr. Winters  opined  that State  Farm would  not                                                               
publish many foreign language policies  but would like to publish                                                               
associated materials  such as brochures  in languages  other than                                                               
English.   He  explained that  insurance companies  are currently                                                               
inhibited  by  Supreme  Court precedence  which  states  that  in                                                               
determining an  insurance contract  dispute, the court  will look                                                               
at the insurance  policy in addition to  other relevant evidence.                                                               
He added  that "other relevant  evidence" includes  brochures and                                                               
informational sheets.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON  opined  that [offering  insurance  policies  and                                                               
associated  materials  in languages  other  than  English] is  an                                                               
incentive for the majority of  insurance companies to obtain more                                                               
business and would be positive for the industry as a whole.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX opined that this is a "burgeoning" market.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  asked if  all of the  different language                                                               
policies would need to be filed with the Division of Insurance.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS replied yes, adding that  he does not feel there will                                                               
be a large number of these in the immediate future.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON noted  that if  necessary, the  legislature could                                                               
put regulations in place.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS agreed  and explained that there  have been instances                                                               
when  the  insurers  have  filed   [non-English]  forms  with  no                                                               
direction as to which version  is the controlling version and the                                                               
Division  of  Insurance has  assumed  that  the foreign  language                                                               
version controls.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked if they  anticipate Spanish to be the                                                               
language used most frequently.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS replied  that he does not anticipate  that State Farm                                                               
will  have   foreign  language  policies,  but   they  will  have                                                               
brochures in Spanish in addition to other languages.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked if  State  Farm  would market  with                                                               
brochures  in  different languages,  but  only  have policies  in                                                               
English.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WINTERS  said  that  this  is  one  example.    He  gave  an                                                               
additional example of  a contract dispute during  which the court                                                               
decides  that the  insurance  company is  required  to honor  the                                                               
brochures given  out.  He reiterated  that HB 394 would  make the                                                               
English language brochure the main version.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if  associated materials need to be                                                               
filed with the Division of Insurance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS replied no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  noted that  it is  the same  for brochures  as it                                                               
would be for an insurance policy.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:35:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  moved to  report  CSHB  394, Version  24-                                                               
LS1506\F,  Bailey,  2/22/06,  out of  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  objected  for discussion  purposes  and                                                               
expressed  concern   regarding  the  diversity  of   language  in                                                               
America.  He  stated that this is "manacle" to  the "American way                                                               
of life."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  expressed understanding  of this view,  and added                                                               
that  America is  a "melting  pot" [of  different cultures].   He                                                               
gave an example  of a person involved in a  car accident who does                                                               
not speak  English and is  therefore unable to get  insurance due                                                               
to  lack of  understanding.   He opined  that this  might make  a                                                               
person change his or her  mind regarding the printing of policies                                                               
in different languages.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  opined that  not many people  read their                                                               
insurance policies.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    LEDOUX    noted    her    surprise    regarding                                                               
Representative  Rokeberg's stance  on the  matter and  added that                                                               
not allowing insurance companies to  market to a growing group is                                                               
"economically suicidal."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG withdrew his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON pointed out that  this would allow both the policy                                                               
and associated materials  to be printed in a  language other than                                                               
English.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  stated  his   agreement  with  the  English                                                               
version being the official version.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON noted that the  objection was withdrawn, therefore                                                               
CSHB  394(L&C) was  reported from  the House  Labor and  Commerce                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:39:37 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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